tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post627110313002517546..comments2024-01-04T15:23:05.055+08:00Comments on Luqman's Dyslexia Blog: Dyslexia – Some questions and suggested answersLuqman Michelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13089314934834818707noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post-47050603175532786332015-07-04T07:04:50.590+08:002015-07-04T07:04:50.590+08:00Bob, clicking on the highlighted words will bring ...Bob, clicking on the highlighted words will bring you to a new page where the links are.Luqman Michelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089314934834818707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post-54283197001183629992015-07-03T22:47:26.824+08:002015-07-03T22:47:26.824+08:00I don't see any links to read.I don't see any links to read.Bob Rose, MD (retired)https://www.blogger.com/profile/18155469409589884394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post-75917234238072937952015-07-03T11:51:52.240+08:002015-07-03T11:51:52.240+08:00How do we improve if we do not listen with an open...How do we improve if we do not listen with an open mind on what others say they have learn from personal experience? <br /><br />Which part of the links I asked you to read don't you understand or disagree with. I have written extensively on why kids shut-down. If you read these posts and then ask me relevant questions I will gladly answer you. <br /><br />After reading the links don't you still understand why kids shut-down? <br />Please let me know which part you want me to elaborate on. <br />Luqman Michelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089314934834818707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post-80247819775532324112015-07-02T23:44:04.737+08:002015-07-02T23:44:04.737+08:00Luqman,
I just posted this response to Kate Glads...Luqman,<br /><br />I just posted this response to Kate Gladstone on a FB page:<br /><br />"Kate: I hope Luqman will explain his own dyslexia prescription briefly. I assume yours is that "Current evidence doesn't prove to us how we can get there from here", and if that's not true, please explain your stance to us."<br /><br />So I hope you do here on this blog. As you know, I'm better at explaining my own view than listening or reading those of others.<br />Bob Rose, MD (retired)https://www.blogger.com/profile/18155469409589884394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post-6181488317088055602015-07-02T10:59:50.253+08:002015-07-02T10:59:50.253+08:00Luqman,
I'll certainly read whatever you writ...Luqman,<br /><br />I'll certainly read whatever you write on this excellent blog.Bob Rose, MD (retired)https://www.blogger.com/profile/18155469409589884394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post-74546186559620740872015-07-02T08:49:17.036+08:002015-07-02T08:49:17.036+08:00Thank you for your comment Bob. AND thank you for ...Thank you for your comment Bob. AND thank you for your kind words. If my blog can help just a few parents of struggling and reluctant students or 'shut-down' learners I will be contented.<br /><br />All my students whom I would like to call as 'shut-down' learners are now good readers.<br /><br />I will write another post in relation to hand writing as soon as possible. <br />Happy days.Luqman Michelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089314934834818707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post-35230555060654916182015-07-01T23:05:39.545+08:002015-07-01T23:05:39.545+08:00Luqman,
I don't think that Douglas was a &quo...Luqman,<br /><br />I don't think that Douglas was a "shut down learner". Now he is 46 years old, has a masters degree in intellectual history, and would have a PhD except that he is not a socialist. Phonics is taught routinely in our schools, but that alone didn't make him a reader, only his attempt to make words visually familiar. My theory about handwriting and visualizing may well be wrong; I only say it will take thorough scientific studies to convince me or that.<br /><br />I'm sure that readers of your blog benefit even if they don't comment. Keep up the wonderful work!<br /><br />I personally think that kids who learn to read without being good at writing letters are kids who THINK about their appearances. This may also be wrong, it's just a thought of mine.<br /><br />When I told Douglas to learn what each written word looks like, he said, "No one could do that, there are too many words". I answered, "Just try." Now he's a better reader than I am, and he's taught me many things.Bob Rose, MD (retired)https://www.blogger.com/profile/18155469409589884394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post-71093839397380938132015-07-01T12:10:42.535+08:002015-07-01T12:10:42.535+08:00If 15% could read before they were good at writing...If 15% could read before they were good at writing, what does that mean? <br /><br />You say that your son was dyslexic and had to stop using phonics before he could learn to read - who taught him phonics and how did he teach him? Your son, could just be a 'Shut-down' learner just like all my students.<br /><br />Hundreds of teachers all over the world have successfully taught and are still successfully teaching struggling students to read using phonics. How can we then say that phonics does not work? <br /><br />Kate probably does not want to make any comment in my blog. Many read my blog but few comment. They don't have the time. This reminds me of what I read not long ago about things one must do - one of the items in that list was: While walking if you stop to watch a street performer place a coin or two in his hat as otherwise....<br /><br />Luqman Michelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089314934834818707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post-17609188404776715722015-07-01T08:23:48.428+08:002015-07-01T08:23:48.428+08:00Luqman
In our study, about 15% of kids read befor...Luqman<br /><br />In our study, about 15% of kids read before they were good at writing. My own son was considered dyslexic early in the second grade, even though he was fluent at handwriting. As it turned out, he had to be fluent at handwriting AND stop using "phonics" and simply learn to recognise words as familiar.<br /><br />I've emailed Kate and asked her to contribute to this blog. I hope that she does, because she, like many, share your opinion. I still say a more formal study would be needed to convince me that my own study is wrong.<br /><br />You are right that correlation does not always indicate causation, but it doesn't PRECLUDE it either, and a study would settle this issue.Bob Rose, MD (retired)https://www.blogger.com/profile/18155469409589884394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post-21868258875612427742015-07-01T07:10:56.575+08:002015-07-01T07:10:56.575+08:00I understand and believe what you are saying. But ...I understand and believe what you are saying. But bob, co-relation does not indicate causation. We have seen statistics which say that between 10 to 20% of kids all over the world fail to read when they leave school. It is these 10 to 20% that we should focus on. The other 80% are those that you are referring to. They are the ones who will have good hand writing and will be able to read well. But that does not mean improving hand writing will eradicate illiteracy.<br /><br />If half of American seven year old can't write and name all the letters then something need to be done about this. But please do not co-relate this with students being unable to read. Kate Gladstone had said that she knows of students who can write beautifully and yet are unable to read what they had written (per your FB post this morning). I believe what she has written. You don't need more proof than that!<br /> Luqman Michelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13089314934834818707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2929940323242620649.post-11573498525400754402015-06-29T23:31:50.042+08:002015-06-29T23:31:50.042+08:00Luqman,
In an email of June 29, you asked me to p...Luqman,<br /><br />In an email of June 29, you asked me to post my opionion as to whether I believe that teaching fluency in alphabet handwriting will abolish reading problems, and to state my reason for so believing.<br /><br />My anser is that I indeed do believe it, and my belief comes from the fact that my on-line teacher study showed that all kids with learning problems are less than fluent at writing the alphabet letters, while fluent youngsters were virtually all readers.<br /><br />Also, Marilyn Jager Adams has written that more than half of American seven-year-olds still can't write and name all of the letters, and folks in the U.K. have emailed me to say things are just as bad there.<br /><br />I think this should be scientifically studied more, and I'll abide by the results.Bob Rose, MD (retired)https://www.blogger.com/profile/18155469409589884394noreply@blogger.com