This is the first of a series of e-mail discussion between Dr. Richard Selznick PhD and myself, based on his book the Shut Down Learner.
11.5.2010
Dear  Luqman: 
Here are some of the observations that I can share with  you relative to some of the issues that you raise: 
When I evaluate children there are typically two  or three tasks that correlate highly with children who struggle with  reading, spelling and writing. These tasks include:
•     Difficulty with recalling spoken digits in reverse order ( 4-7-6-2)
•     Difficulty with tasks that involve manipulation of sounds (say “clip,”  now say it again but don't say /c/.”)
•    Difficulty with tasks  that involve rapid naming, such as rapidly naming colours or objects in a  given array.
If I just knew that a student had  difficulty with two or three of these items above, I would be very  willing to bet a good deal of money that they also have difficulty with  reading, spelling and writing. I would note that well over 90% of the  time. Almost always, when children show weaknesses with these types of  tasks, they do struggle with decoding, spelling and writing.
My  impression is that the children that we call dyslexic almost always  struggling with the vowel sounds within the words. The vowels are  particularly problematic because they do have different shades and  letter or combination of letters representing them (way, weigh). 
Within  the programs that we use, we advocate mastering the short vowel sound  within a closed syllable type of word pattern first.
Also  problematic for dyslexics are multisyllabic words (e.g., porcupine,  institute, philanthropists). They lack sensitivity for rapidly breaking  the words down into their component parts. I do believe that the people  that I see who fall under this umbrella typically have trouble with  facets of the language that contribute to their struggling. As you will  see in my book, I emphasize that these people tend to gravitate toward  visual and spatial type of tasks. I call them "Lego" kids in the book.
It's  hard for me to comment on why children will seem to learn one language  system and struggle in the other and I do think that your explanations  make sense. I would imagine that the language systems that you are  discussing have one to one correspondence between the symbol and the  sound, which is simply not the case in English. Hebrew, for example, is  phonetically consistent and each letter representation corresponds with  its spoken sound.  It sounds like Malay is similar and probably easier  to learn, as is Hebrew.
When you do receive my book,  when I refer to "Type I” reading problems, these are the ones that  typically are of the dyslexics style.
Hope this is helpful
11.5.2010
Dear  Dr. Selznick,
Thank you for your response and sharing with me  your observations.
I did not try any of the three exercises where  you said you'd bet your money. I will keep this in mind when I start  taking in dyslexic children as students next year. That is very good information. It  is specific and something to work on. 
Regards,
Luqman  Michel
                                              About Dr. Richard Selznick 
Dr.Selznick is a psychologist, a nationally certified school psychologist, and a graduate school professor. As a director of Cooper Learning Centre at Cooper University Hospital, Dr.Selznick overseas a programme that assesses and treats a broad range of learning and behavioural problems in children.
Dr.Selznick also functions as a school consultant, and throughout the year he speaks to numerous parent groups, schools, and regional conferences on topics such as dyslexia, parenting, bullying, and ADHD
Dr.Selznick’s contact : 
Richard  Selznick, Ph.D.
Director: Cooper Learning Center
Department  of Pediatrics
Cooper University Hospital
(856) 673 - 4903
Fax  (856) 673 - 4909
email: selznick-r@cooperhealth.edu
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4 comments:
Dr. Richard Selznick and Michel Luqman This is informative and very interesting. I concure Though I am not learned in the field. It seems obvious since dyslexia is a working memory problem not a language problem. If we can just get passed the language issues by say rationalizing the language we could work on ways to improve the working memory. Thanks
Hi John. Thank you for your comment.
You say it is obvious that dyslexia is not a language learning disability and that is good. However there are many others who need to be convinced.
Ways to improve working memory is beyond this blog. However, I have given many ways for a student to learn effectively in my book which you may find at :http://www.excellent-student.com
Meanwhile for children to improve their memory one of the best games to play and a game which is recommended by scientists for improving memory is as follows:
Sorry it is too long to write here. I'll write it as an attachment in my next article.
Hi again John, I have asked one of my face book friends who is very knowledgeable on short term memory to write an article on it and he has consented. So we'll wait for his article instead of my "attachment" I mentioned above.
It is now 7 years since Dr. Selznick and I had the above dialogue. I have learned quite a bit about what I like to call shut-down kids or disengaged kids.
Dr. Selznick is a clinician and he deal with kids who are mostly different from the kids I have taught.I believe he has also dealt with kids similar to those I have taught.
Armed with the knowledge I have gained from my students I am going to have another dialogue with Dr. Selznick.
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