Friday, September 17, 2021

Phonics and Whole Language - Tweets by Londonjohn vs. Dr. Michael Paff


The following tweets were exchanged on Twitter. I followed it without commenting as it sounded like kids fighting with one another. It reminded me of the Indian prince who caught a three legged rabbit and insisted that all rabbits are 3 legged.

Here are the tweets and my comments.

Londonjohn @londonjohn9

Michael, I'm the only one who posts videos of my work. Are you saying that my grandson is guessing and experiencing frustration?


My comment: I post my videos all over the place but that is not the issue here. I don’t agree with Londonjohn over many things but in this regard I believe his grandson can read and is not experiencing frustration.


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Maybe, I don't know and you don't either. Unless you've explicitly taught him the phoneme-grapheme correspondences in that text, he very well might be. Those skills do not develop naturally.

My comment: This coming from a Ph.D. is ludicrous. I don’t believe he is that naΓ―ve. Dr. Michael is simply talking nonsense. Has he not heard of the thousands who learned to read during the whole language period? Diane Ravitch (not that I like this woman) learned during the whole language period just like most of her followers of her blog. Our Sally Shaywitz too is another excellent example of someone who does not know phonics.

How did ‘those skills’ develop in all those who learned during the whole language period?

Londonjohn Replying to @DrMPaff @teachforever54 and 9 others

Were you taught individual GPCs as you learned to read? I wasn't.

My comment: I believe him.


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Of course! Most kids need it. I remember phonics lessons and I'm forever grateful for them. If you didn't get that kind of instruction, I'm so sorry. You'd likely be a much better reader if you had.

My comment: I am ashamed of such statements coming out of the mouth of a Ph.D. I would ask Dr. Michael to say this to Diane Ravitch.

Idiotic tweets such as the above makes me wonder where in the world this guy got his Doctorate from.

Londonjohn @londonjohn9

And how did you know how to use the GPCs you were taught? How did you know the difference between here, there and were?

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Duh. I practiced. After having been taught. This isn't rocket science. And thank goodness I had teachers who let me practice & provided corrective feedback when needed.

Londonjohn @londonjohn9

So you practiced with books that offered words with a range of GPCs. When were these given is the question. Phonatixs keep key high frequency words away from pupils. I do the opposite, hence my success.


James Dobson @jdtdobson Replying to @londonjohn9 @DrMPaff and 10 others

I wasn't either and I can read. But in the jurisdiction where I was taught, nearly 50% of the adult population is functionally illiterate.

So maybe I should have been taught GPCs... Then more of my peers would also be able to read.


My comment: James did not learn phonics and yet he can read as well as Dr. Michael. He however, feels for the 50% who were unable to read because they were not taught GPC’s.

Can James or Dr. Michael give me the name of any public schools teaching GPC’s where 100% of kids are able to read?

The facts are there for all to see. A majority of kids learned to read where schools only taught Phonics; whole language; or balanced language. There were kids who did not learn to read under any of the 3 methods.

The question to ask is how to teach so that ‘No child is left behind’. That ‘No child left behind’ policy was mooted in 2001 by President Bush and after 20 years it has yet to be achieved. Shame on these guys fighting over nothing instead of finding ways to improve teaching methods.

Here is a tweet by londonjohn on 5.10.2020

As I've said before, if you are right then relax in what you're doing as truth will prevail. You don't need to go on a witch hunt trying to destroy others who are helping kids read. (London John).

1 comment:

Luqman Michel said...

Here are comments I have copied from LinkedIn

Graeme Wadlow
Trying to hide their ignorance, and incompetence, and maybe more about marketing and selling a program that not all are best able to use. Purely massaging their ego, and unwilling to understand reality.

It also demonstrates the lack of academic quality of the university which allowed that individual to gain a Ph.D. and demonstrates the academic failure of those who run that education system.